Editor’s note: A lot of news happened after Grant and I recorded this Friday morning. First, two federal judges ruled that the federal government needed to keep distributing SNAP benefits, even during the federal government shutdown. Second, Oklahoma officials — including Gov. Stitt, Speaker of the House Kyle Hilbert and Senate Pro Tem Lonnie Paxton — announced there would be a vote on Monday to give $1M per week to Oklahoma’s food banks.

By Ryan Welton | Oklahoma Memo

OKLAHOMA CITY — With the federal shutdown stretching from Oct. 1 through Halloween (Day 31), core safety-net programs begin expiring Nov. 1–3, putting millions on edge—including a disproportionate number of Oklahomans, journalist Grant Hermes said on the Make It Make Sense crossover podcast with Oklahoma Memo.

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